Posts by Isambard Crater

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UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

by Isambard Crater in

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friends

my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

and i'm kind of disappointed..

Isambard Crater

I was just hoping news like the ARC would have put lots of people off going to the Memorial this year, but clearly it's had no impact at all.

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UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

and i'm kind of disappointed..

Isambard Crater

I hear you about world events, but if stuff like Russia and Syria happen every year from now on, memorial attendances will keep rising, leading J.W's to keep saying the end now really is so very near.

My congregation doesn't share so we just had it at the normal time, but my grandparents' congregation shares with another and they tell me both of them, even the late shift, had record numbers.

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UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

and i'm kind of disappointed..

Isambard Crater

My congregation had around 25 more people at the Memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations I have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present. Umm, I'm surprised, having thought this year would see a Memorial decline again. And I'm kind of disappointed.

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I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping

by Isambard Crater in

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i'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?

part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.

it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..

Isambard Crater

I agree on reflection that a mass crumbling of the J.W religion because all 8m+ members suddenly realise it's all rubbish wouldn't be a good thing mentally or socially for so many current believers, as it's all they've got.

It's ruining my life, though, their policies negatively affecting the present and future for my unbelieving husband and I, and on a more trivial scale meaning we only ever have about 40% of our weekends to enjoy ourselves, as I've got to waste 3 hours every Sunday at the afternoon meeting.

The main reason I still go is because leaving would destroy my parents. I know it's "their problem" but I don't want to cause any hurt to them, so I guess this is why, amidst my occasional silly 'it could actually be the truth still' moments, I would love for a huge scandal to rock the bOrg so badly that my parents see sense. My 72-year-old Father has been involved with cases of child abuse in the past, but these days seems to think, act and speak like the sun shine's out of the bOrg's ass, so I assume the ARC has had no impact on his feelings/attitude at all, sadly.

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Has Anyone Ever Just Gotten Mad and "Popped" an Elder?

by Cold Steel in

it has to have happened.

people get stressed out, an elder or overseer takes just two steps over the line and gets a fat lip for his trouble.. does that ever happen?

or maybe someone "counsels" a brother at the wrong time and tempers flare at the old kingdom hall?.

Isambard Crater

Over the years, I have heard elders snap at each other on occasion, yup. Also, when my Cousin was about 16, she was slapped on the face by a Circuit Overseer's wife due to a mis-understanding.

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I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

i'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?

part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.

it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..

Isambard Crater

I know, guys... I really do want to fully separate from the religion A.S.A.P, at least in a PIMO way, but having been raised in it and all that, I sometimes get these 'oh, wait a second; maybe...' moments. That's why I appreciate your support on the forum.

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I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

i'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?

part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.

it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..

Isambard Crater

I'm at the stage where I'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the J.W's are not the true religion, but sometimes I get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the Russian court trial being one of them.

I mean, J.W's are understandably fixated with attending the Memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on Monday or Tuesday, instead setting Wednesday 12 April as the date? Part of me believes the comments from pro-J.W's that Jehovah moved events so they could attend the Memorial.

It seems the J.W's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking Jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb Australian Royal Commission team who did their homework. It surprises me the Russians seemingly haven't done any homework.

Very interesting radio programme on what truth is

by Isambard Crater in

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friends

an excellent listen, talking about jesus' reply to pilate when he rhetorically asked 'what is truth?

', on how religions shape truth, on subjective and objective truth, and what propaganda is - which ties in nicely with july's watchtower article on it:.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kttst.

Isambard Crater

An excellent listen, talking about Jesus' reply to Pilate when he rhetorically asked 'What is truth?', on how religions shape truth, on subjective and objective truth, and what propaganda is - which ties in nicely with July's Watchtower article on it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kttst

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Red Alert - Propaganda is Being Used!!!!!!!!

by The Searcher in

check out the latest watchtower:.

"your defense?

be determined to stick to jehovah’s organization and loyally support the leadership he provides—no matter what imperfections may surface.

Isambard Crater

It's telling people to trust the channel that gets so many things wrong or need adjusting with new understanding!

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Effects of GB Manipulation

by longgone in

because the gb controls it's members by f.o.g does that affect former members to be easily manipulated by self serving people as they start a new life outside the borg?

the definition of a manipulator according to the cambridge dictionary is a person who controls people to their own advantage, often unfairly or dishonestly.

sounds familiar doesn't it?.

Isambard Crater

Since awakening and having tried to go through the motions of faking still being a J.W for the past few years, I have become more and more sceptical of all organisations, information and, in a way, people. So in my case it's a 'no' in response to the FOG tactics used by the borganization having made me more susceptible to being coerced by others since leaving (at least in my mind and heart).